The jury got to see another jail visitation, the last jail visit Casey took, which was recorded on August 14, 2008. She was bailed out of jail six days later.
At the time of this video, Casey had been in jail for a month. As the videotape begins, George and Cindy sitting with butterfly tee-shirts, waiting for Casey to arrive.
CASEY COMPLAINS ABOUT THE POLICE, THE FOCUS BEING ON CAYLEE, GETS FRUSTRATED AND SHAKES HER FISTS.
At the time of this video, Casey had been in jail for a month. As the videotape begins, George and Cindy sitting with butterfly tee-shirts, waiting for Casey to arrive.
CASEY COMPLAINS ABOUT THE POLICE, THE FOCUS BEING ON CAYLEE, GETS FRUSTRATED AND SHAKES HER FISTS.
At one point, Casey complains that police are not helping her, saying "The police didn't even give me 24 hours to help. Then upset at her parents' focus on Caylee, she says: "I know you guys want Caylee, I want Caylee. But I can't do anything from where I'm at to help find her".
At one point, George Anthony is talking to Casey, telling her that she's in control of the situation. Casey becomes combative and argues that she's not in control of anything. Then we hear George trying to tell her that he doesn't mean to get her upset as Casey tells him that she wasn't supposed to even take their jail house visit, saying "the media is going to have a freakin' field day with this. I wasn't even supposed to take this (the visit). George continues to talk to Casey, saying that they're (the Sheriff's office) is not going to release their jail visits with Casey to the media. As he tells her that, Casey says that she hopes that they're not going to. She continues talking over her dad, saying she'll continue saying things about the police so that they won't release her jail visit tapes to the media. Seeing her daughter getting agitated, Cindy tugs at the phone to speak with Casey. George says "Here's Mom".
PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT OF HOW THE CONVERSATION WENT BETWEEN CASEY AND HER PARENTS
As Casey watches the phone get handed over to her mom, Casey blows up, shakes her handcuffed fists, and says "Can someone let me..." and then she yells out: "COME ON!" Cindy gets on the line and asks Casey to settle down. Casey in turn complains that nobody's letting her speak, that they want her to talk, and that she wants them to give her three seconds to say something. Cindy then tells her that she'll listen to what Casey has to say. Casey then says: "I'm not in control over any of this. I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't know what's going on. MY ENTIRE LIFE has been TAKEN from me. EVERYTHING has been taken from me. You don't understand. Everybody wants me to have answers, but I don't have any answers because I don't know what's going on. I have no one to talk to, except when Jose when he comes. That's the only person I can talk to right now, because I can't say anything to you guys besides telling you that I love you, (Casey sniffs), I want Caylee and that's not being put on the air which it should be. It's everything else that I'm NOT saying. That's why I've not been calling, that's why I haven't been taking calls because I said that we weren't going to be doing that because I've said that I've been trying to make sure that I'm not going to give anybody anything else to throw against me. And even with me giving them nothing, they're still doing it, so.. how am I...". (As George watches sadly as he watches Casey reacting).
PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT OF HOW THE CONVERSATION WENT BETWEEN CASEY AND HER PARENTS
As Casey watches the phone get handed over to her mom, Casey blows up, shakes her handcuffed fists, and says "Can someone let me..." and then she yells out: "COME ON!" Cindy gets on the line and asks Casey to settle down. Casey in turn complains that nobody's letting her speak, that they want her to talk, and that she wants them to give her three seconds to say something. Cindy then tells her that she'll listen to what Casey has to say. Casey then says: "I'm not in control over any of this. I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't know what's going on. MY ENTIRE LIFE has been TAKEN from me. EVERYTHING has been taken from me. You don't understand. Everybody wants me to have answers, but I don't have any answers because I don't know what's going on. I have no one to talk to, except when Jose when he comes. That's the only person I can talk to right now, because I can't say anything to you guys besides telling you that I love you, (Casey sniffs), I want Caylee and that's not being put on the air which it should be. It's everything else that I'm NOT saying. That's why I've not been calling, that's why I haven't been taking calls because I said that we weren't going to be doing that because I've said that I've been trying to make sure that I'm not going to give anybody anything else to throw against me. And even with me giving them nothing, they're still doing it, so.. how am I...". (As George watches sadly as he watches Casey reacting).
Cindy says "You'll be fine once Caylee is found" Casey sternly says : "Mom! I understand that, but do YOU understand my position on this - You guys expect me to have a thousand answers and I have NOTHING... I've been here A MONTH, out of contact with everybody except you guys on the rare occasion that I get to see you, and my attorney. Do you understand? What am I supposed to learn from that?" Then Casey repeats: "What am I supposed to learn from that?" She continues saying: "The first week and a half, yeah, I've tried to help you guys backtrack. That's all I could do was backtrack. I can't backtrack on anything. A MONTH, I've been removed from the situation. You guys are not understanding my side of this and I'm sorry."
Cindy then says: "No, I understand" for which Casey responds (still angry) "No you don't, you're still asking me if there's anything that I can tell that's going to help. That I'm the one that can do this. I can't! The opportunity was there that I probably could've helped. I'm trying! I was trying. There's nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home. And even then I don't know what I can do from that point, but I can do something other than sit on my butt all day and read. Or look up stuff for my case, cuz that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus.
Cindy interjects: "Your focus should be Caylee", at which point Casey angrily responds "Mom! If that's my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I don't have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere".
Cindy asks Casey what she can do, for which Casey says "I already told you Mom! I told you everything."
Cindy: I've thought about everything that you've told me the last month.
Casey: You've thought about stuff, and you've done what you can, I'm sorry that's all I can do from the only knowledge that I have.
CASEY THREATENS TO WALK OUT OF VISIT
CASEY THREATENS TO WALK OUT OF VISIT
Cindy then tells Casey that she was in Lake County recently, and asks Casey if there's anything there, for which Casey starts flipping out again, saying "Mom! I'm sorry, I love you guys, I miss you...
Cindy, seeing how angry Casey is tells her that she's going to hand the phone over to George now, and Casey angrily says: No! I'm going to hang up right now and walk away...
Cindy begs Casey to stay, to not hang up "Please don't".
Casey: "I'm frustrated and I'm angry. This is the first time that I've been truly, truly this angry this entire time". Casey is making a fist with her hand. She continues saying "But I'm so truly frustrated with all of this. But, I can't even swallow right now, it hurts."
Cindy: "Just understand that we're all going all these different directions, we just want to go in the right one.
Casey: Well, I can't point you in that direction when I'm literally at a standstill. I'm just as removed from the situation as somebody who has no clue of what's going on. At least even random people that we've never met have more of an outlook on this than I do right now. It's really sad. It's really really sad that I literally have nothing right now. Nothing.
Cindy: None of us have anything right now Casey.
Casey: You guys have each other. You're sitting next to dad. You still have Lee. You have access to our community, to our family and friends, to our house. You're taking for granted that I have no one to comfort me but myself and the occasional visit, which has to be business for the sake of finding Caylee. So yeah, I may look like I'm in charge. Wrong. I'm completely pushed away from everything! Everything.
Cindy: No... All we're telling you is that you can tell, they have to honor your wishes when you say something. That's all Dad's trying to tell you. Jose has to honor your wishes.
Casey: And he has been Mom. He has been with everything. Everything.
Cindy: Well you know he's in New York now, for a couple days.
Casey: He's doing stuff for business for ME.
Cindy: I know.
Casey: Mom, you're not telling me anything I don't know. Please, I don't want to get frustrated or upset with you but ...
Cindy: In his absence, Dominic's a good person if you want to talk to anybody.
Casey: Mom, I've already... (Casey scoffs)..Thank you. I've already talked to everybody who I know I can talk to, and who I'm not allowed to talk to. Who I can see, and who I can't see. Who's going to see me and who's not going to see me. I've arranged all of this.
Cindy, sounding beaten down, says: Ok.
Casey: It's already been set up. Again, he's the one person who's been keeping me in the loop because he's the only person who can. He's making sure that he's doing that. In every way possible.
CASEY CONFRONTS HER MOTHER ABOUT WHAT SHE FACES
CASEY CONFRONTS HER MOTHER ABOUT WHAT SHE FACES
Cindy: Well I just hope he's telling you honestly what you're up against.
Casey, getting angry again says: Mom, I know what I'm honestly up against. Do YOU guys understand what I'm honestly up against. And with keeping me here, you're not helping me help myself. I'm sorry to say that.
Cindy: We don't have the means to get you out anyways Sweetheart. We don't.
Casey: I understand that, but the opportunity was there and it wasn't taken advantage of and ...
Cindy: We didn't have an opportunity. I don't know where you're hearing that...
Casey: Just give Dad the phone. Please. I'm sorry, I don't want to get frustrated. Just give Dad the phone.
GEORGE TRIES TO CALM CASEY DOWN
GEORGE TRIES TO CALM CASEY DOWN
Cindy hands the phone to George. Realizing that his daughter is angry, he tries to calm her down.
George: Hey Sweetie.
Casey: This is seriously the first time I've been angry. I've been this frustrated to where I can't even think straight at this moment. Throughout this entire thing, I was pissed off that one day at the police station. I was mad when all of that happened, but I tried to look at things objectively. This entire time I haven't sat in my room for the entire month and been mad. Not ONCE (Casey's frowning). Not one time. But right now, this is the most agitated and frustrated that I've been. Even when I sat down with Jose and watched Nancy Grace and heard what was being said about Mom and being said about me and about him and everybody else and stuff that I've heard. It's frustrated me, but I've let it go. But now I am so hurt by everything, I don't even know what to say. And I hate to say that.
George: Well I'm not, I'm not trying to upset you. Neither are Mom. We're not trying to. And if we are, then I'm, I'm, I'm sorry for that.
CASEY GETS ANGRY, SHAKES HER FISTS AT HER PARENTS
At one point, Casey saying that police are not helping them. Casey says "The police didn't even give me 24 hours to help. I know you guys want Caylee, I want Caylee. But I can't do anything from where I'm at to help find Caylee. She continues telling George that Jose is well aware of telling her everything that's going on. George says "Number one and number one point one should be Casey and Caylee." Casey says that she understands Caylee is number one focus of her parents. George tries to keep Casey calm, but Casey is getting more and more agitated because he's talking during the same time Casey's talking. Frustrated at not being allowed to speak, we see Casey get angry and says, shaking her fists "COME ON!!"
CASEY TELLS PARENTS: "MY ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM ME!"
Then Cindy gets back on the line, she asks Casey to calm down. Casey, still agitated goes on with her rant, saying: "My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. Everybody wants me to have answers, but I don't have any answers".
CASEY TELLS PARENTS: "MY ENTIRE LIFE HAS BEEN TAKEN FROM ME!"
Then Cindy gets back on the line, she asks Casey to calm down. Casey, still agitated goes on with her rant, saying: "My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. Everybody wants me to have answers, but I don't have any answers".
Cindy says "You'll be fine once Caylee is found" Casey then says : "Mom! I understand that, but do YOU understand my position on this - you guys expect me to have a thousand answers and I have nothing... I've been here a month. Out of contact with everybody except you guys on the rare occasion that I get to see you, and my attorney. Do you understand? What am I supposed to learn from that?" Then Casey repeats: "What am I supposed to learn from that?" She continues saying: "The first week and a half, yeah, I've tried to help you guys backtrack. That's all I could do is backtrack. I can't backtrack on anything. A month, I've been removed from the situation. You guys are not understanding my side of this and I'm sorry."
Cindy then softly says: "No, I understand"
Casey responds (still angry) "No you don't, you're still asking me if there's anything that I can tell that's going to help. That I'm the one that can do this. I can't! The opportunity was there that I probably could've helped. I'm trying! I was trying. There's nothing more that I can say or do until I'm home. And even then I don't know what I can do from that point, but I can do something other than sit on my butt all day and read. Or look up stuff for my case, cuz that has to be my focus right now. That has to be my focus.
Cindy interjects: "Your focus should be Caylee"
Casey angrily responds "Mom! If that's my focus, which it is, I can't do anything from here. I don't have access to the Internet. I can't make phone calls. I can't go anywhere".
Cindy asks Casey what she can do, for which Casey says "I already told you Mom! I told you everything."
Cindy: I've thought about everything that you've told me the last month.
Casey: You've thought about stuff, and you've done what you can, I'm sorry that's all I can do from the only knowledge that I have.
Cindy then tells Casey that she was in Lake County recently, and asks Casey if there's anything there, for which Casey starts flipping out again, saying "Mom! I'm sorry, I love you guys, I miss you...
Cindy, seeing how angry Casey is tells her that she's going to hand the phone over to George now, and Casey angrily says: No! I'm going to hang up right now and walk away...
Cindy begs Casey to stay, to not hang up "Please don't".
Casey: "I'm frustrated and I'm angry. This is the first time that I've been truly, truly this angry this entire time". Casey is making a fist with her hand. She continues saying "But I'm so truly frustrated with all of this. But, I can't even swallow right now, it hurts."
Cindy: "Just understand that we're all going all these different directions, we just want to go in the right one.
Casey: Well, I can't point you in that direction when I'm literally at a standstill. I'm just as removed from the situation as somebody who has no clue of what's going on. At least even random people that we've never met have more of an outlook on this than I do right now. It's really sad. It's really really sad that I literally have nothing right now. Nothing.
Cindy: None of us have anything right now Casey.
Casey: You guys have each other. You're sitting next to dad. You still have Lee. You have access to our community, to our family and friends, to our house. You're taking for granted that I have no one to comfort me but myself and the occasional visit, which has to be business for the sake of finding Caylee. So yeah, I may look like I'm in charge. Wrong. I'm completely pushed away from everything! Everything.
Cindy: No... All we're telling you is that you can tell, they have to honor your wishes when you say something. That's all Dad's trying to tell you. Jose has to honor your wishes.
Casey: And he has been Mom. He has been with everything. Everything.
Cindy: Well you know he's in New York now, for a couple days.
Casey: He's doing stuff for business for ME.
Cindy: I know.
Casey: Mom, you're not telling me anything I don't know. Please, I don't want to get frustrated or upset with you but ...
Cindy: In his absence, Dominic's a good person if you want to talk to anybody.
Casey: Mom, I've already... (Casey scoffs)..Thank you. I've already talked to everybody who I know I can talk to, and who I'm not allowed to talk to. Who I can see, and who I can't see. Who's going to see me and who's not going to see me. I've arranged all of this.
Cindy, sounding beaten down, says: Ok.
Casey: It's already been set up. Again, he's the one person who's been keeping me in the loop because he's the only person who can. He's making sure that he's doing that. In every way possible.
Cindy: Well I just hope he's telling you honestly what you're up against.
Casey, getting angry again says: Mom, I know what I'm honestly up against. Do YOU guys understand what I'm honestly up against. And with keeping me here, you're not helping me help myself. I'm sorry to say that.
Cindy: We don't have the means to get you out anyways Sweetheart. We don't.
Casey: I understand that, but the opportunity was there and it wasn't taken advantage of and ...
Cindy: We didn't have an opportunity. I don't know where you're hearing that...
Casey: Just give Dad the phone. Please. I'm sorry, I don't want to get frustrated. Just give Dad the phone.
Cindy hands the phone to George. Realizing that his daughter is angry, he tries to calm her down.
CASEY TELLS FATHER THAT THEIR VISIT INDUCED HER FIRST REAL FRUSTRATION
CASEY TELLS FATHER THAT THEIR VISIT INDUCED HER FIRST REAL FRUSTRATION
George: Hey Sweetie.
Casey: This is seriously the first time I've been angry. I've been this frustrated to where I can't even think straight at this moment. Throughout this entire thing, I was pissed off that one day at the police station. I was mad when all of that happened, but I tried to look at things objectively. This entire time I haven't sat in my room for the entire month and been mad. Not ONCE (Casey's frowning). Not one time. But right now, this is the most agitated and frustrated that I've been. Even when I sat down with Jose and watched Nancy Grace and heard what was being said about Mom and being said about me and about him and everybody else and stuff that I've heard. It's frustrated me, but I've let it go. But now I am so hurt by everything, I don't even know what to say. And I hate to say that.
George: Well I'm not, I'm not trying to upset you. Neither are Mom. We're not trying to. And if we are, then I'm, I'm, I'm sorry for that.
Casey: I know that's not your intention. You have to understand where I'm coming from in this. And obviously none of you are. By still expecting me, a month, literally out of the loop, to have some sort of new insight into stuff. I mean REALLY? (Casey scoffs and sighs).
George: Ok, I realize that this is really hard for you to talk about, especially ...
Casey: Because I can't do anything! Because I've done everything. I've said everything. I've thought about everything. That's all I can do is sit and think. Every day. And that's what I've done. Any information that I've given has been passed on. I know that.
(As we look at George as he's sitting and talking with Casey, we see him rub Cindy's back as she lays her head down in front of her).
George: You know, It's, it's just hard I know for you, it's hard for us cuz none of us have ever been through this kind of stuff before, none of us.
Casey: Well obviously not. And we need to stick together on this, and it's hard for us at this point.
George: Well we are sticking together, we are.
Casey: Well for Mom to say that you guys have nothing, I told her you guys still have each other to lean on. I don't have anybody. I have myself and the occasions that I can see my attorneys who are trying to do whatever they can for myself and for Caylee. So, you guys at least have the crutch or multiple crutches throughout the community with everybody.
George: Well, even that is waining at the moment, believe me. Even your mom and I are having our issues every single day, so just realize...
Casey: Dad, I know it's going to take a toll on everybody. But understand where I'm coming from on this. You have to see everybody's side. I've looked at everybody's side about this. I've been praying every single day for insight, and everybody's thoughts and everybody's insights and I know where you stand and where you're coming from. And I know where you're sitting right now, and Mom and Lee and Joe Schmo walking down the block who's been seeing this on the media every single day for the last month. I can see everybody's side on this, but the worst part is that nobody can see my side, and I have to keep my mouth shut. I have to keep my mouth shut about how I feel because all I have to do is give the media more stuff for them, the detectives and whoever else to throw back in my face when this goes to trial.
CASEY TELLS GEORGE THAT SHE'S PICKED HIM FOR INDIVIDUAL MEETING
George takes a heavy sigh and says: Well, all I know is that I'm trying everything I can to try to see you. Just you and I. I'm trying. And so is your brother, and your mom would like to do that, so...
Casey: I know that and when I had that choice, they told me they were initially setting it up with Lee. God, I would do anything to see you right now. Absolutely anything, but I wanted to see Lee and talk with Lee but I knew that it would be an interrogation and he'd have a whole list of everything that he'd ask me. And with Mom...
George: With Lee, honestly no, honestly no.
Casey: Well that's how it's been Dad. I'm just thinking of how it's been with everything. And with Mom, Mom will dominate the a lot of conversation, which is how it's been. I mean, you and I, we've been separated for a while. And we were just... I want to see all of you, but I wanted to see the one person that I've been so far disconnected from the longest, and that's you.
George: Well I'm thankful for that. Thank you.
Casey: It was hard for me to make my choice. I sat there for a half hour with Jose, trying to think about this and he told me it's up to me, how I wanted to do this. How we wanted to figure it out. And it was hard. Cuz I don't want to have to choose from the three of you, you know. Who I want to see or talk to. But, I made a choice. I'm going to stand behind that.
George: Well that's good. I'm glad that you made that choice on your own. I'm grateful for that. I know it's a tough decision for you. I know that.
Casey: Everything's a tough decision, just because I'm so limited on the decisions I can actually make now.
George: I know. Well let me see if I can handle it a different way to get in to see you. Would that be ok with you?
Casey: Do what you have to do. I'm obviously not going anywhere right now, so I'm here, I'm biding my time.
George: Ok, well you know, you could always... Here's a thought for you, the people that are with you right now where you're at, you can expedite this very quickly, if you want to. Ok?
Casey: How?
George: Just mention to the people who are there with you, the corrections people, that "I want to see my dad. I want to see my dad right now" and they can expedite that through Mr. Barry and stuff like that. They can do anything within a matter of hours, they really can.
Casey: Yeah, I tried that. Negative! There's only so much they can do. I can make phone calls. I can take these visits. There's only so much that I can do. And it has to come from the outside, from someone else. I can't. I have asked those questions. I have that tried already. I've been asking every question that I can possible think of.
(NOTE: This meeting was scheduled and about 1 1/2 hours prior to when it was to happen, Casey cancelled it).
The tape continues to play. At one point Cindy tearfully tells Casey that she's afraid of what's happening to Caylee, wondering if the people who have her are feeding her properly. Cindy breaks down, and then tells Casey that at least she knows where Casey is but is scared that she doesn't know where Caylee is. Casey responds to that telling her mother that even though her mom knows where she is, she's not comfortable. Realizing that doesn't sound so good, Casey shifts her conversation and tries to comfort her mother, telling her that she knows that Caylee is OK.
(NOTE: This meeting was scheduled and about 1 1/2 hours prior to when it was to happen, Casey cancelled it).
The tape continues to play. At one point Cindy tearfully tells Casey that she's afraid of what's happening to Caylee, wondering if the people who have her are feeding her properly. Cindy breaks down, and then tells Casey that at least she knows where Casey is but is scared that she doesn't know where Caylee is. Casey responds to that telling her mother that even though her mom knows where she is, she's not comfortable. Realizing that doesn't sound so good, Casey shifts her conversation and tries to comfort her mother, telling her that she knows that Caylee is OK.
At the end of the video, Cindy and Casey talk about whether videos of their jail visits will be put on TV. Cindy tells Casey that the videos won't be put on TV, and Casey goes on to explain how she makes sure to say how bad the police are, and have been to her, to ensure that they'd be too embarrassed to release her tapes to the media. Then she tells her parents that she will not cooperate with police if they continue to accuse her, saying "I'll try to help them in any way I can, but if they come in here attacking me, they aren't getting shit. I'm sorry. I need to be looked at as a victim... I'm just as much of a victim as the rest of you. It hasn't been portrayed that way, and it probably won't be. But, I know that and at least there are other people that know that, and understand that."
Then George tugs at the phone to say goodbye, and tells her that she can trust him, Mom and Lee.
No comments:
Post a Comment